PETA

[Stupidthing0]

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. That is who they are.

While most of the time the only time you hear about PETA is when they do something extreme. But does anyone know what they REALLY do? It came to my attention that MOST people don't really know about PETA except for the EXTREME actions they take (ie. getting all over Obama for killing a FLY. giving Ronald Mcdonald sharp teeth and knife on cups bc of the treatment the chickens mcdonalds uses and other stuff like that) so yea, PETA can go little far sometime because everyone is not going to stop eating meat. (hell I was vegan for a while but now i even eat fish and some poultry, though its far less than anyone i know) I don't always agree with PETA but I do support the anti-fur campaigns because of how animals (esp in china) are de-furred. (don't know the technical term...) so I wore my "Mean people wear fur" shirt and I got some interesting comments. From hippie to really mean things.

I just found that people are really dumb and I wouldn't try to convince someone to stop eating meat or wearing leather or WHATEVER bc... i know I can't save the animals - even though i like to to think so.

Anyway, questions comments concerns?

[chefTENGU]

Peta is terrible. Penn and Teller put it better than I ever could in their episode of Bullshit!.

Peta deserves to be condemned and decried not because of their stance on animal rights, but on their insane worldview that encourages people to engage in acts of violence and terrorism in order to further their own agenda, and the crushing hypocrisy of its higher-ups.

For example: one of their VPs is diabetic and requires prescribed insulin, which is harvested from cattle. If she really gave a shit about her principles, she'd refuse to take such a medication, but no. Conveniently, she's rationalized that she "can save more animals if she gets her insulin than if she doesn't and dies."

I'm pretty sure I could save a lot more animals by eating meat and therefore sustaining myself so I can take care of my pet rabbit (oh yeah, PETA doesn't want you to have pets, either; that's not treating animals with "dignity." Give me a break).

[Tiger]

For example: one of their VPs is diabetic and requires prescribed insulin, which is harvested from cattle. If she really gave a shit about her principles, she'd refuse to take such a medication, but no. Conveniently, she's rationalized that she "can save more animals if she gets her insulin than if she doesn't and dies."

Totaly agree with you TENGU (though they do some great things the extremists do it in for them IMO) just wanted to point somethings out.

Its probably Pig insulin not bovine (though i could be wrong) and if she really cared she'd get synthetic human insulin like my step dad does

[deathofcheese]

I can agree with some of the ideals PETA says they stand for, like better treatment of animals, and education into how widely animals and animal products are used to make our lives better. However, just because they put a face on my hamburger doesn't mean I won't enjoy it any less. They could do with a bit of baby-stepping.

[Colonel Skills]

PETA should stick to just getting hot chicks naked for no reason.

This I am fine with.

[chefTENGU]

Its probably Pig insulin not bovine (though i could be wrong) and if she really cared she'd get synthetic human insulin like my step dad does
I'm pretty sure they specifically said it was bovine insulin, but I could be mistaken (it's been a while since I saw the episode). Regardless, that lady is full of shit; she's still exploiting an animal for her own benefit.

[Tiger]

I'm pretty sure they specifically said it was bovine insulin, but I could be mistaken (it's been a while since I saw the episode). Regardless, that lady is full of shit; she's still exploiting an animal for her own benefit.
Hummm in all the convos I've had with my step dad about insulin hes never mentioned bovine....idk

Totally agree with you on the lady being full of it! Especally when I KNOW theres synthetic human insulin.

[Killer_Man_]

I was always told they used to use pig insulin before they started to create human insulin... Regardless...

Peta, which I have a shirt... People for Eating Tasty Animals....

Heh...

Regardless, I think that Peta is a good idea to help those animals who we eat, make furs or whatever we may use the animal for. Is treated well but they do go over the line.

[Tiger]

I was always told they used to use pig insulin before they started to create human insulin... Regardless...



Aparently if i remember right you can develop a resistance to each of them...synthetic human being the last step. I think my step dad started on Human moved to pig and now is on synthetic human.

[Stupidthing0]

oh, another point, if theres people still eating meat - animals are gonna die. if there's people still paying for fur, animals will still be slaughtered. And i agree they should take baby steps...

as i said i really only support their fur campaigns (and mainly the china one)

also - i had to do debate in speech and I was on the opposing for animals rights (hard to do) but back before technology and stuff - all people really ate was what they hunted. No one complains about them..... but PETA complains about the people who hunt theses days (and i mean the ones who actually eat the animals) -_-

also - peta doesn't mind you having a pet as long as its 'adopted' not bought at a pet store (and puppy mills are very nasty things if you've ever seen/been to one) we've gotten all of our animals from rescuing them or from adopting them from the pound (aka rescue)

[Killer_Man_]

oh, another point, if theres people still eating meat - animals are gonna die. if there's people still paying for fur, animals will still be slaughtered. And i agree they should take baby steps...

as i said i really only support their fur campaigns (and mainly the china one)

also - i had to do debate in speech and I was on the opposing for animals rights (hard to do) but back before technology and stuff - all people really ate was what they hunted. No one complains about them..... but PETA complains about the people who hunt theses days (and i mean the ones who actually eat the animals) -_-

also - peta doesn't mind you having a pet as long as its 'adopted' not bought at a pet store (and puppy mills are very nasty things if you've ever seen/been to one) we've gotten all of our animals from rescuing them or from adopting them from the pound (aka rescue)

Most people who do their research for puppies or kittens actually buy them from a good breeder. By good, I mean those who do it at their house. I keep telling people buy it from professional breeders who breed from their home.

It should be law that you have to use all the usable parts of animals when you hunt or if not, then donate the meat to some shelter or something. Yanno? Not just for sport/trophies.

I don't see a problem with PETA as long as the animal is treated with respect. We should be able to kill it and devourer it's tasty tasty meat. Which PETA calls murder, but it's tasty tasty murder.

EDIT:

I can see something like this...

http://blog.peta.org/archives/2010/03/utah_ending_pound_seizures.php

Something like this would need to stop.

[Seegtease]

The core of the problem with PETA is that they regard animals at the exact same value, if not higher, than humans.

For example, if there was a facility where humans were being raised and killed for eating, we'd have a military unit in a heartbeat shutting down that operation, with lethal force if necessary.

PETA would do the same thing in a meat processing plant (and regard it as just as significant as my example), except they can only go as far as the law will let them.

[Tiger]

It should be law that you have to use all the usable parts of animals when you hunt or if not, then donate the meat to some shelter or something. Yanno? Not just for sport/trophies

I don't support Trophy hunting, I hunt for meat when I do hunt, but a lot of trophy hunters do donate the meat when they have the animal processed, all taxidermists have the forms to donate the meat.

[chefTENGU]

oh, another point, if theres people still eating meat - animals are gonna die. if there's people still paying for fur, animals will still be slaughtered. And i agree they should take baby steps...
Here's another of PETA's hypocrisies: that eating meat makes you responsible for the lives of the animals which have been slaughtered to feed you.

However, as Maddox pointed out long ago, anyone who eats ANY type of harvested food is equally responsible for the cruel deaths of hundreds of defenseless animals, unless they themselves grow, tend, and harvest all their own crops by hand.

Ignoring things such as pesticides and other such vermin control that goes hand-in-hand with farming, using a combine to harvest a field of grain will dramatically reduce the population levels of the small burrowing mammals that live in that field (things like rabbits, voles, mice, etc.).

If you eat a purely vegetarian diet, you're probably responsible for MORE animal deaths than someone who regularly eats meat.

[Seegtease]

Apparently, those huge bovines are worth more than a dozen gophers, and yet a human's worth is equal or less than the cow. It's all just... wiggidy wack, yo.

[Stupidthing0]

yea, when i was vegan it was mainly for health reasons- not so much the animal rights and stuff... but another thing and i remember this from speech is that the ones who were against animals rights said "what is a cow good for other than to be eaten? It's a huge creature that just sits in a field - eats grass and grains - goes to sleep and does this daily. ?" good point no? of course others said all humans do is pollute the earth and bla bla bla - so stop driving your car and stfu? anyway... jus soemthin random.. i think in theory PETA is a way to stop animal abuse in the extreme ways... but we can't even stop people abuse - let alone animal abuse

[Tiger]

Ok I talked to my Step Dad about the insulin thing, he said they harvest it from, cattle, sheep, pigs....idk whatelse, synthetic human is the most expensive. If she REALY cared about the animals she'd dish out the extra money, but so many of these extreme people are hypocrites themselves.