What's your machine?

[Detrevni]

What's your computer system? Is is a box set or self built? What OS does it run? How much porn do you have stashed away on it?

Ok, well everything but that last one. We all know that the average answer will be "a lot". :)

CUSTOM BUILT

My system is powered by a 400W PS providing the juice for:

1 AMD Athlon 5600+ 2.9 gHz Dual Core Processor
1 nVidia Geforce 8600GT (bleh need a new card)
2 GB of RAM (DDR2)
and about a Terabyte od HD space.

I look at these beautiful forums with my 22 inch widescreen LCD monitor. Wootah!

Oh and I'm running XP Pro 32

[Nad]

Bah, wipes mine into the dust. Tis 6 years old and its only used for internet and work so I don't need a beast of a machine :)

Custom built running Win XP Pro SP3 x86
1 Toshiba Internal 80GB HDD
1 Western Digital Internal 500GB SATA II HDD
1 Seagate Internal 80GB HDD
1 Toshiba External 1TB HDD
1 Western Digital My Book 500 GB
AMD Athlon 3000+ XP Processor
2.5 GB DDR Ram
Nvidiea MX 400
Pioneer CD/DVD-R Writer
600W PSU to power HDD's

Lol that's it, crappy to today's standards but not worth upgrading as price of computer hardware constantly drops 2 months after you buy something and I don't use it for anything other than the internet and work :) Got shitloads of disk-space though :p

[Charlie]

Dell Dimension 3100 desktop
Windows XP
160 GB HD
245 MB RAM
CD-R/RW - DVD-R/RW Burner

That's all I know of this thing

[Detrevni]

Charlie I think Nad's computer is better than yours. :(

[Charlie]

I've got Broadband, I can play Vice City on it flawlessly, and it responds like a computer should. And I can put all the music I want on it. That works for me. Besides, I'm not rich.

[Mydra]

Linux slash 2.6.20-hardened-r2 #4 SMP Mon Sep 3 22:14:47 EEST 2007 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
cpu MHz : 233.872

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 187G 154G 24G 87% /


total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 217 212 4 0 120 17
-/+ buffers/cache: 74 142
Swap: 831 0 831


...Oops, wrong comp. Sorry.

(stupid formatters :< )
Quote the message and you maybe can read it. Maybe.

[Nad]

Lol i thought you were more computer literate than me Charlie :p
Gaming is why i have a PS3 :)

[Bodomi]

Custom built, this configuration is getting old... :(

AMD Sempron 3100+@1,8GHz
ASUS N6600
2 GB RAM (DDR 400)
Around 800 Gb of total HD space
Win XP Pro

[DoomKitty]

Crap laptop. 'nuff said.

[BillmasterZ]

Ok prepare to get owned all:

Custom Built:
AMD Dual Core 64-bit 2.2GHz (Not over clocked yet)
150Gig HD 7200RPM SATA II
2GB 800MHZ ram
9600 Nvidia over clocked.
500W Power Supply.
USB Bluetooth and Nintendo Wi-fi Stick Hacked.
I also have my Wii Remote and Nunchuck working for my PC.

OSes:
Win XP Pro SP3 32-bit
Vista SP1 64-bit
Fedora Linux
and sometimes Mac OSX Hacked for PC.

(Runs Crysis with Everything on Very High almost no lag.)

I beat Detrevni only cause of my Video Card and Ram Speed. The processor is not as important as it used to be cause vid cards do most of the work. Even with Crysis Both of my Cores don't go past 50% usage.

Also in my house an awesome 1.0ghz AMD 256MB I'm posting on now that Is pretty much just parts laying around but I have it working from my leetness. LMAO the CPU fan is not even secure!!!

Oh yea and a Pentium III Laptop 256MB with XP SP3 that I might end up selling if Mom never comes back home. Since I bought it for her.

[Detrevni]

My RAM is also 800 (pretty sure) mHz :P So when I get my new Vid card we'll have equal machines.

Also I COULD OC my proc to like 3.2.. but I'm have some cooling issues (I think my thermal paste is bad) So I've left it alone.

But a very admirable machine. Which 9600 is it?

[BillmasterZ]

" But a very admirable machine. Which 9600 is it?"

BFG Tech.

Edit: Overclocking your CPU is really not worth it even with great Cooling. It still takes processor life away.

[Detrevni]

rgr that.

So I'm actually looking for a new Video card... I was look at the Radeon HD3870, any recommendations?

[Mydra]

Oh well, maybe I should list this comp too.

Athlon 64 X2 4600+
NVidia Geforce 7600 GT
3G of DDR2 RAM
Little bit of disk space (see listing below)
And quite old kernel, 2.6.24-gentoo-r4

Enough to run kde4 with nice wobbly windows.

smar@Moon ~> df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc1 46G 26G 18G 60% /
udev 10M 212K 9,8M 3% /dev
/dev/sdc2 642G 569G 41G 94% /home
/dev/sdb2 224G 137G 87G 62% /home/smar/Tiedostot/Warefilet/Videot/sdb2
/dev/sda3 274G 56G 205G 22% /home/smar/Tiedostot/Warefilet/Sek
shm 1,5G 0 1,5G 0% /dev/shm
smar@Moon ~> free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3021 1276 1744 0 90 562
-/+ buffers/cache: 624 2396
Swap: 1427 0 1427

I'm not sure about my real disk space, I have few small partitions unmounted.

[Gio Takahashi]

Because I don'tmake enough money it took me a while to build this computer, but I recently finished this one last month

Name: Nume II

This computer is entirely custom built and put together by yours truly.

Processor: AMD Athlon 6000+ 64 X2 Socket AM2 3.0 Ghz Windsor
Motheboard: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe
PSU: Antec NeoPower 550 Watts
Ram: Corsair PC2 6400, 1 GB x2 DDR2 Dual Channel. (2 Gigabytes total so far)
Graphic: EVGA 8800 GTS, 320 bit. (I will probably replace this with a new 9000x series after some research.)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
Hard drives: 2 Internal, 3 Externals
++Internals:
+++250 Gigabytes, Seagate Barracuda, SATA 3.0 Gb/s (Not named yet)
+++200 gigabytes, Western Digital 7600 RPM Pata. (it's somewhat old compared to the rest) (Proto-Emerald)
++Externals:
++200 gigabytes Seagate Barracuda. Pata (Sapphire)
++160 Gigabytes Western Digital SATA (Zircon)
++120 gigabytes Seagate (Ruby III)
( I think, at least. I'd have to double check and update later on)
Keyboard: Logitech G11 Silver and black Gaming keyboard

I'll post a screen shot later. There's still a lot of room to upgrade, I planned on getting a 500 gigabyte ( or even 750, or maybe 1 Terabyte) at first, but my money was running low, so I decided to start with a simple sized hard drive just to get the computer working asap.

Laptop details:

Name: Miaka II

AMD Turion 64 2.0 gigabytes
Ram: 1512 megabytes (128 is shared)
Graphic: Ati Mobility Radeon Xpress 200
OS: Vista Ultimate 32bit
Hard Drive: 250 gigabyte Western Digital Caviar? (Emerald)

[Detrevni]

Ew why the GTS? Granted its better than mine but a HD3850 can out perform an 8800 GTS at most resolutions. (My 8600 GT is my roomate's old card, I'm ordering a new video card this weekend. May have ot get a new processor too... I've been getting random restarts since my comp overheated... :( Though it coudl be the card, too.

Though that is a very sexy machine. *drools*


Gonna stick another few gigs of RAM in there for ultimate sexiness? you kind need to with Vista sucking it all dry. that damn OS uses WAY too much RAM.

On another note, this paycheck I'll be getting my new video card, a Radeon HD 3870 with 512 MB of GDDR4 Ram. woot woot! Only $179! Crazy.

For all those who like to build their own computers, www.newegg.com is the way to go. :)

[Mydra]

My 3G of RAM is way too less. /me needs donators!

I also want new processor, this is slow :/

[BillmasterZ]

My 3G of RAM is way too less. /me needs donators!

I also want new processor, this is slow :/


I fail to find the funny.

[Mydra]

I fail to find the funny.

There's no funnies, I need these parts :/

[BillmasterZ]

There's no funnies, I need these parts :/

Maybe I will send if you do me a favor?! ^^ One that I have not thought of yet.

[Gio Takahashi]

Ew why the GTS? Granted its better than mine but a HD3850 can out perform an 8800 GTS at most resolutions. (My 8600 GT is my roomate's old card, I'm ordering a new video card this weekend. May have ot get a new processor too... I've been getting random restarts since my comp overheated... :( Though it coudl be the card, too.

Though that is a very sexy machine. *drools*


Gonna stick another few gigs of RAM in there for ultimate sexiness? you kind need to with Vista sucking it all dry. that damn OS uses WAY too much RAM.

On another note, this paycheck I'll be getting my new video card, a Radeon HD 3870 with 512 MB of GDDR4 Ram. woot woot! Only $179! Crazy.

For all those who like to build their own computers, www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) is the way to go. :)

Yeah, I didn't go for the high end Graphic Card yet. I was told that 8800 GTS is good enough, and I agree, it runs ever so fantastic.

And yes I do plan on keep on upgrading ram and hard drive and video card. It's all either money or waiting game (especially the 9000x Nvidia series)

As for Vista. vista uses a lot of memories because it's design to keep using ram, despite how much you put in, for background work. They are usually low priority, and when software demands for memories, it will "make way" for the said software. While 2 gig seems to be doing good, I will definitely add more later on.

Lastly, all of my parts came from Newegg ;P

[Detrevni]

Newegg ftw!

I was drooling over the 9800 GX2 or whatever it was on there... 500 dollar card but it is VERY SEXY.


Pondering getting a new case... but I really don't want to unplug EVERYTHING and start from scratch lol.

[Mydra]

Doesn't Vista have memory calculator that decucts cached memory off...? People always do that mistake when reading these values >_>

But emm, main problem with small memory isn't that OS takes a bit of it, but that these background programs needs memory too. If your game uses it all... Game over.

I can easily spend about 4G of memory just putting programs on, what I'd like to run but can't because of powerless computer. And even then I couldn't play anything with these all on. Not fun.


Maybe I will send if you do me a favor?! ^^ One that I have not thought of yet.

won't give the adress to you.

[BillmasterZ]

Doesn't Vista have memory calculator that decucts cached memory off...? People always do that mistake when reading these values >_>

But emm, main problem with small memory isn't that OS takes a bit of it, but that these background programs needs memory too. If your game uses it all... Game over.

I can easily spend about 4G of memory just putting programs on, what I'd like to run but can't because of powerless computer. And even then I couldn't play anything with these all on. Not fun.




won't give the adress to you.

Vista is a bit of a resource hog.

Trust me I could find your "adress" if I wanted to. I might just show up one day!!! ^^

[Mydra]

Vista is a bit of a resource hog.

Trust me I could find your "adress" if I wanted to. I might just show up one day!!! ^^

Vista is resource hog, but 2G isn't overkill for any decent system.

You shouldn't lie. You just showed how little you really knew about thingies, so... Oh well, I suppose talking about it is pointless.. Thread closed. ;P

[Nad]

Newegg ftw!

I was drooling over the 9800 GX2 or whatever it was on there... 500 dollar card but it is VERY SEXY.


Pondering getting a new case... but I really don't want to unplug EVERYTHING and start from scratch lol.

Lol my mate has one of them. Lucky craps, $500, thats like $300 less than what we pay (?400).

Damn weak dollar, crap for most things but good if we want to live in the US :P

[Gio Takahashi]

Yeah, I do intend to look at 9800 as well, when I get the money, but damn. x.x

[Crogg]

Crogg does not own a machine. Crogg breaks into innocent homes and uses other people's machines! Sometimes Crogg even uses the NSA super machines!

Crogg also thinks 3GB of RAM is a strange and crippled number. Crogg believes memory amounts should always be in EVEN NUMBERSMASH! :eek:

[Gio Takahashi]

Crogg does not own a machine. Crogg breaks into innocent homes and uses other people's machines! Sometimes Crogg even uses the NSA super machines!

Crogg also thinks 3GB of RAM is a strange and crippled number. Crogg believes memory amounts should always be in EVEN NUMBERSMASH! :eek:


O_o Yeah. I can agree with that.

[Charlie]

Now that I downloaded PC Wizard, behold. The correct information:

Manufacturer : Dell Dimension DV051
Mainboard : Dell 0JC474
Chipset : Intel i915GV
Processor : Intel Pentium 4 524 @ 3066 MHz
Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801
Monitor Type : Dell Computer DELL E177FP - 17 inches
Network Card : Intel Corporation 82562EZ PRO/100 Ethernet Controller
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)

[Gio Takahashi]

you really need more ram.

[Crogg]

Gio is correct. Crogg isn't sure how you browse the interwebs with that much RAM, nonetheless how you run any decent audio apps. Crogg is impressed and sad at the same time.

[Jasmin Jaquine]

All these numbers confuse me and I have no idea how to find half of the information on any of my computers.

>.<

[Gio Takahashi]

Use PC Wizard 2008. go google it.

[Charlie]

Any word on how I can increase my RAM?

[Bodomi]

It's pretty easy process.

You buy something that looks like this:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/bodomi/22052008089-1.jpg

And stick it in here:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/bodomi/22052008090-1.jpg

[Gio Takahashi]

It depends on the types of ram that your computer can use, which would likely be DDR.

[Mydra]

Heh, Bodomi's tutorial is funny.

Go to google your motherboard's specs and look what you'll motherboard eat. Then go to shop and demand they to give some yummy memory to you.

[Crogg]

Any word on how I can increase my RAM?

Crogg will help Charlie with this process. Charlie must provide Crogg with the model number on the outside of his computer. The model number Charlie listed IS INADEQUATE FOR CROGG! Crogg is fairly certain of the real model number, but Crogg wants to be certain to give Charlie GOOD ADVICE! :eek:

[Killer_Man_]

Mainboard : Asus M2N32-SLI DELUXE
Chipset : nVidia nForce 590 SLI
Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ @ 2800 MHz
Physical Memory : 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Nvidia Corp GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB
Hard Disk : WDC (250 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : ASUS DVD-E616A3T
Monitor Type : Samsung SyncMaster - 23 inches
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)

To be honest, this is custom built with custom fan on the processor and all that. Theo nly reason I went with a 2.8 dual core cause it was cheaper, still good and etc. Well Inforcer helped me out on it. Anyway, I feel at times that I will upgrade higher end of a dual core, i heard quad core is just stupid and over priced.

Um, other then that, my machine is a powerful enough for now.

[Detrevni]

There's nothing wrong with the 5600, it's a great processor. Has enough power to do pretty much whatever I can think for it to do :) Intel dual cores actually are somewhat higher quality, but they have a significantly higher price from what I've seen.

[kell]

Ahem.

A MacBook. With absolutely nothing special about it.

Yay me.

[Mydra]

Yay, kell.


To be honest, this is custom built with custom fan on the processor and all that. Theo nly reason I went with a 2.8 dual core cause it was cheaper, still good and etc. Well Inforcer helped me out on it. Anyway, I feel at times that I will upgrade higher end of a dual core, i heard quad core is just stupid and over priced.

I would prefer quad core as I have gentoo: I need to compile all packages and it takes lots of CPU time. Also, I run various apps and it'll going to kill me soon... ;P Poor apps :/

[Killer_Man_]

Well, I know the 2.8 is awesome and all but I want more POWER. And I heard from reliable sources that quad core isn't that good and it's just better to get better dual cores. Then again I'm running I think a 64 bit process on 32 XP. I still want more ram too but 32 bit only supports 3 gigs and odd numbers is bad for DDR2. :\

And, shadowkiller, or whatever your name is now. xD

I never liked Intel, really never did since the first machine I was given. Back in the day when 800 MHZ was bad ass, it ran like it was 600. :| and it was a pent III or IV. Can't remember.

[Detrevni]

Actually running 3 gigs of ram isn't too bad if you run it with 2 1 gig sticks and 2 512 sticks. :)


Intel dual cores are better a tthe all at once processing, intels have always been better at multi tasking, whereas AMD procs are far superior for gaming.

It all depends on what you want to use it for.

Here's my new sexy: :D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127315

[Killer_Man_]

Lets put it this way, gaming wise. Which I use my machine the 99.999999% of the time. AMD > Intel.

[Detrevni]

Yeah.. I do love my AMD processors.. I ahven't had an intel for like... 5 years lol

[Charlie]

Crogg will help Charlie with this process. Charlie must provide Crogg with the model number on the outside of his computer. The model number Charlie listed IS INADEQUATE FOR CROGG! Crogg is fairly certain of the real model number, but Crogg wants to be certain to give Charlie GOOD ADVICE! :eek:

Fuck.. I threw away the sticker that was on top of here some time back. I've got no fucking idea what the right number is now. >.>

[Detrevni]

look up the computer specs to see what sort of RAM it takes, then buy a stick of he correct type (DDR or DDR2, probably DDR2, bu t can't be sure.)

[Gio Takahashi]

Manufacturer : Dell Dimension DV051
Mainboard : Dell 0JC474
Chipset : Intel i915GV
Processor : Intel Pentium 4 524 @ 3066 MHz
Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801
Monitor Type : Dell Computer DELL E177FP - 17 inches
Network Card : Intel Corporation 82562EZ PRO/100 Ethernet Controller
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)


Clues.

[Mydra]

Clues are overrated. Glues are funnier.

I didn't spot tht list, but ehm, I think Case closed.

[Crogg]

Well since DV051 isn't a proper Dell model number, I'll assume it is an E310 because they use 0JC474 (didn't want to trust just shady Google results that pull up when you search for DV051 and I really didn't want to work too much for it. lol).

So we've got two slots that can handle max 1GB sticks. Look's like we're going with 2GB of RAM. I highly recommend Newegg myself and I would end up picking this Corsair set.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145527

If you want help installing it, Dell's manuals are normally pretty good.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim3100/en/sm/index.htm

It is a pretty cheap upgrade, easy to install and you should notice a HUGE difference.

[Charlie]

Hmm.. cool. Thanks, man. E310 actually sounds like it might be right, too. Soon as the money from my job starts coming in (I start work on the 2nd), I'll look into the upgrade.

*saves the links for future reference*

[llama_egg]

Building a computer > Buying premade. God, just the advantage of overclocking makes it worth while, let alone normally it's cheaper. Anywho, onwords!

AMD 64 6000+ 3,000mhz @ 3,510mhz (Fingers crossed on a higher clock, but she's pretty much maxed out)
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 @ 5-5-5-18
eVGA 8800GT 512MB @ 730/1825/1000
Antec Quattro 850w PSU

And my custom set up watercooling keeping everything nice and cool at 30?< most of the time. Though I do need more ram, she is quite a beast! <3

Oh, and before I forget;

1x200GB HDD
1x300GB HDD
1x750GB HDD

And an enclosure holding another 750GB for backups.

Also, I hate to say this, but in the long run, overclocking your CPU won't take that much life away from it. Your still gonna be hitting a good 5 years with a OC'd CPU. Personally, considering how easy it is to do, I believe for the gain, it's worth it.

[Crogg]

Also, I hate to say this, but in the long run, overclocking your CPU won't take that much life away from it. Your still gonna be hitting a good 5 years with a OC'd CPU. Personally, considering how easy it is to do, I believe for the gain, it's worth it.

Crogg agrees 100%, NO BULLSHIT IN HERE. CROGG++

[Killer_Man_]

To be honest, I still don't like overclocking, especially since my mother board does it already.

[llama_egg]

I'm guessing your using an Asus board with, god what's it called again, Ready Tune of Nitro or something? Not a real overclock, with that you might be getting what out of your 15% boost it allows? Plus it only does your CPU, still leaves your memory and GPU out of the mix. Much better to go into your bios and change everything manually, you will get much better speeds.

Also, as long as your careful, overclocking causes no harm to your system/parts, and even though alot of companies say that "it voids warranty" they can't tell. Seriously, the card just doesn't burst into flames or something when OC'd, god, I've yet to have one stop working on me. And I'm sort'a zealous when it comes to OC'ing, with starting huge and working my way down, for example, I had one of the worlds highest OC's with my CPU when I started...to bad she wasn't stable past the starting screen...

[Crogg]

O.o Highest OC on water huh?

[Killer_Man_]

llama, I don't think it's Nitro but yes I have an asus board if you look up a few posts. My thing clocks up to 3.2 during high end games at times. Llama, anther thing, I have 640 MB video card, I do not need to overclock my videocard that already runs a bit hot.

[Detrevni]

hey lama, my processor out of hte box came wita 100 mHz OC (2.8 to 2.9 gHz)
and I ahve a little system instability, could it possibly be related? I mean the system runs fine but it will occasionally reboots for no goddamn reason at all and then tell m e that it has recovered from a serious error.

SO LAME

Thoughts?

[Crogg]

Crogg believes you need to disable Auto Restart on System Error to determine the root issue.

1. Right Click on My Computer > Choose Properties
2. Advanced Tab
3. Startup and Recovery Section, Setting Button
4. Uncheck "Automatically Restart" under the System Failure section.

Next time it happens, post up the details.

[Detrevni]

that won't screwup my computer will it? :P

[Crogg]

Not at all, it will merely allow you to view the glorious Blue Screen of Death (aka the Error Code & Message) instead of just automatically restarting. This of course means you will have to *gasp* manually turn your computer off and on.

[Mydra]

Black screen of undeath, aka kernel panic, is much funnier.

[Crogg]

OMG YOU USE LINUX?

[Mydra]

Nope.

Linux Moon 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Wed Apr 9 16:29:07 EEST 2008 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Ooops, that was mistake.

[Crogg]

CROGG IS VERY IMPRESSED

[Mydra]

*Mydra wonders*

[Gio Takahashi]

My laptop actually runs Ubuntu alongside with Vista. When Ig et my new laptop, current laptop (Miaka II) willl run primarily ubuntu.

[Mydra]

I've never liked ubuntu. It's just too windows-like, they even recommend rebooting to the people. I don't see a reason on that. It's just plain stupid.

[Killer_Man_]

I like Ubuntu but due to LInux being incompatiable with games, I am forced to use windows.

[Mydra]

Linux isn't incompatible with games. That's just propaganda of idiots.

[Killer_Man_]

Or the mere fact you have to 'hack' or run emulation. I aint the person with the patience to do that.

[Mydra]

Yeah, atleast I don't need to deal with all kind windows erorrs. Saves time.

[Killer_Man_]

Ubuntu is only used to save me from say if Windows decides to be full of errors that I can just transfer my important shit and then format the partition with windows.

Look, Windows isn't doesn't have as much errors as you think as long as you don't fuck with it. I only install the drivers(For video card, MB and etc) and don't fuck with windows and yet I never have had a problem. It's much like my first machine that had Windows ME. I didn't have a problem at all(save for things like WoW running shittier than it was.) I am just saying. Windows isn't as bad as you think. When Linux becomes more popular and is support by most to all games and the company makes their own emulation and etc. I will consider it. FFS, I am using Ubuntu to explore the net.

[llama_egg]

I nearly never have windows errors, but saying that, I whore my system. I whore it like a pimp. Though saying that, you should stab yourself if you chose to use Vista, especially considering Windows 7 is in production.

Also, stop the argument between Ubuntu and Windows. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. The only reason I use Windows is I hate finding support for drivers.

Also, listen to Crogg, it's obvious Crogg is computer literate. Also, I highly doubt your computer is instable due to a 100mhz overclock. Hell, you could probably pump that as least to 3,200mhz without any instabilities, and that's with me not knowing what processor your using. Normally you have alot of leeway when it comes to overclocking.

[Mydra]

Sorry for continuing this, but... I just can't agree with these arguments.

I know they are different OSes, but even then. Remember, I would never go to suggest linux to user who is happy with windows. That's just nonsense.


Look, Windows isn't doesn't have as much errors as you think as long as you don't fuck with it. I only install the drivers(For video card, MB and etc) and don't fuck with windows and yet I never have had a problem. It's much like my first machine that had Windows ME. I didn't have a problem at all(save for things like WoW running shittier than it was.) I am just saying. Windows isn't as bad as you think. When Linux becomes more popular and is support by most to all games and the company makes their own emulation and etc. I will consider it. FFS, I am using Ubuntu to explore the net.

Precisesly wine and cedega(which allows you tro play windows games) aren't _emulation_ software. They would run games at native speed, if the everything is implemented. If that speed is slower or faster than windows' depends on kernel and drivers. It won't be any more buggy than the game is in windows.

But, these these aren't complete, of course. Implementing whole WINAPI isn't that easy or fast.

Only machine I've had troubles installing drivers has been debian, a distro which Ubuntu is based. I just give a command and package manager installs a package(driver) to me. Easy as anything.

There is other points too, why I prefer linux over windows, but erm, it starts to go about my interests, so I think no need to flood them to here. You won't benefit from it.

Clearing anything?

[Killer_Man_]

Meh, I still stand by -what I said.- Even if I used more game savvy linux. I just don't like the idea of installing drivers and all that, that isn't more 'company base.' I have seen and heard that most Linux is fan base support. Which is nice and all but I just don't have the time, the patience or trust. Plain and simple.

And I still do not want to fucking overclock. It's POINTLESS. Not to mention, didn't I say my video card runs a bit hotter than most? Plus Llama if you read my post you would know what I have. I just never ever have a reason to overclock anything to be honest. It's worthless, I bought the CPU that I have now cause it was on sale during the holidays which I was building/buying parts and I had to have my machine now cause my older one was degrading fast and dying. I could just go out and buy a 3.5ish dual core(Maybe quad core if I find a good enough reason to buy one but other than that my machine is just fine.). Besides I could use the old one as a backup or sell it to my little brother cause he plans on buying a new machine.

Here is my temps.

Hardware Monitoring : ITE IT8716F
Voltage CPU : 1.34 V
+5V Voltage : 4.88 V
+12V Voltage : 11.20 V
NB : 3.60 V
VBAT : 3.06 V
Processor Fan : 2556 rpm
Chassis Fan : 1436 rpm
Power/Aux Fan : 10 rpm
Processor Temperature : 34 ?C
Processor Temperature (Core 1) : 31 ?C
Processor Temperature (Core 2) : 26 ?C
Mainboard Temperature : 36 ?C
Power/Aux Temperature : 38 ?C
ACPI Thermal Zone : 40 ?C
:
Video Monitoring : nVidia Driver + Thermal Diode
GPU Temperature : 58 ?C
GPU Diode : 46.1 ?C
GPU Fan : 100%
:
Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T
Hard Disk Temperature WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 : 30 ?C


I don't know why it says my GPU fan speed is 100% when really it's only 70% at idle, 80% during gaming and if it gets hotter(Like 85-90 which is a danger zone cause 100 is where it'll start to damage.), it'll run at 100%. Which has never happened since I keep my case/machine clean and my room clean too. So far the highest I've seen is 85 but that is before I knew of rivatuner.

[Mydra]

Meh, I still stand by -what I said.- Even if I used more game savvy linux. I just don't like the idea of installing drivers and all that, that isn't more 'company base.' I have seen and heard that most Linux is fan base support. Which is nice and all but I just don't have the time, the patience or trust. Plain and simple.


There you go, saying things you don't seem to know about.

Linux, of course, lives from all kind of (open source) devs, but emm, for example, look Trolltech. It develops Qt, a library which KDE is based. It's dual licenced, so you can go off and make even closed source software if you buy a licence from them. That's what Opera has done.
I know, Qt isn't good example as it is multiplatform library. But so is so many other applications/libraries. Gimp, anyone?

Even The Linux(kernel) is developed by company. But they accept patches to it, and, of course, bug reports. Having interaction with users they can easily plan new features, and sometimes even get patches that saves their work.

Ehm, that's about open source coding generally.

I don't have patience to toy with _windows_. It's just unsuitable and would need extra time to be configured to way I want it to be. And I wonder if it'll ever be as easy to use as my system is for me. because it's configured for me by me.

And, what's that crap about installing drivers? I don't get it even a bit.

[Gio Takahashi]

I think overclocking is all about who has the biggest e'peen :P (kidding, I guess)

Anyway,I've never overclocked. I didn't find a reason to. 100 or 500 megahertz isn't going to make a different. Maybe it can make a little different but not much. So far all of the processing demanding games runs soo smooth. Maximum fps and the jazz. I brought Athlon 64 x2 6000+ for a reason. It's 3.0 gigahertz. It can do be good for a couple of years, and it's a socket that AMD seems to like using for a while. I could easily upgrade to a new processor if I want.


As for windows versus Linux users. all I can say is to each their own. Right now Windows is easy enough for me to use and run games, and such. Of course I'll be happy using and sticking Vista. Maybe I got -very- lucky with Windows vista. Having running two installations of vista (Laptop ultimate 32 bit, and Desktop ultimate 64 bit), almost NEVER I ran into errors, and if I do, it's the hardware issue. Graphic card on my laptop is the best example. I ran into a few trouble at first, but I found workaround, and within a month or two, it's fixed by Ati.

Most people blame it on Vista for the errors, when it's more likely that it's a conflict between hardware and their driver.

[Bodomi]

I think Vista is a steaming pile of shit.
While it may work good on some machines, it was really slow on the laptop we bought. And as far as the memory and CPU speed goes, that computer is almost on par with my desktop computer. (Got rid of Vista and installed XP. Works like a charm now.)

Also, they changed the UI on Vista too much, it makes the administrative operations pain in the ass. :/

[Killer_Man_]

There you go, saying things you don't seem to know about.

Linux, of course, lives from all kind of (open source) devs, but emm, for example, look Trolltech. It develops Qt, a library which KDE is based. It's dual licenced, so you can go off and make even closed source software if you buy a licence from them. That's what Opera has done.
I know, Qt isn't good example as it is multiplatform library. But so is so many other applications/libraries. Gimp, anyone?

Even The Linux(kernel) is developed by company. But they accept patches to it, and, of course, bug reports. Having interaction with users they can easily plan new features, and sometimes even get patches that saves their work.

Ehm, that's about open source coding generally.

I don't have patience to toy with _windows_. It's just unsuitable and would need extra time to be configured to way I want it to be. And I wonder if it'll ever be as easy to use as my system is for me. because it's configured for me by me.

And, what's that crap about installing drivers? I don't get it even a bit.

I was told that you had to find drivers and emulation to make everything work on Linux. And yes I do already know what you said, you just assumed I didn't cause I probaly worded it all wrong. I just don't like doing modfications just to make it all work.

With that being said I'm out of the discussion. It'd be different IMO if Linux became bigger than Microsoft and made millions. Then I'd consider it even more. Like I said Linux = back up + internet bussiness. Windows = gaming. ;)

[Mydra]

Emm, do you read what you say? There is no even a single rationale for your statements. You seem to made your mind because others has told you and because it is not popular.

You need emulation even with windows if you want to play certain games; DOS isn't fully supported even in XP. In that part linux of course isn't any different. It's just that playing in emulation is always much slower, so there's these wrappers. It could be that one day it is wine that's used to play old games, when Windows has died out.

Making modifications on linux isn't that harder deal than in windows. It's just easier, with certain distros(e.g ubuntu makes it as hard as windows makes).

With drivers it same kind of thing. Debian's policy doesn't allow to put propiertary software to main package tree. So, you can't get direct rendering(3D) to work if you don't install drivers by hand.

About every distro _will_ work properly as out-of-box, Ubuntu is one I've seen to have most problems, IMHO mainly because of nature of Debian's package manager. Of course users is part of it too, I've heard that some users who have tried ubuntu doesn't know they're using a linux distro...

When I installed Xorg (“graphics base”), I just put one line to one file and emerged it, and I was ready to go. No need to do anything extraordinary.

Though, I was forced to make a proper config file for Xorg when I wanted to put my wacom in use, it was made with one command, then I needed to copy lines Wacom needed and restart X(that would need restarting Windows, btw :P). Everything worked smoothly with just that.

I don't know if installing drivers is that easy with debian based distros, as it seems to use own tools for these, but ehm. It's not really hard. You just need to have access to google and be able to read english.

Then again, if you are happy how your Windows works, there is no need to use anything else. If you don't want to. Linux isn't The Perfect System. And I think nothing will ever be. Technology improves all time.

Lastly, “Like I said Linux = back up + internet bussiness.” doesn't make any sense. What are you meaning with it?

[Gio Takahashi]

I think Vista is a steaming pile of shit.
While it may work good on some machines, it was really slow on the laptop we bought. And as far as the memory and CPU speed goes, that computer is almost on par with my desktop computer. (Got rid of Vista and installed XP. Works like a charm now.)

Also, they changed the UI on Vista too much, it makes the administrative operations pain in the ass. :/

Vista has more program going than XP does, which you can very easily disable. How does the UI change make administrative operations a pain in the ass? If you're refering to user account control, you can easily turn that off.

[Mydra]

Vista has more program going than XP does, which you can very easily disable. How does the UI change make administrative operations a pain in the ass? If you're refering to user account control, you can easily turn that off.

How that's our noob user OS. I wouldn't be able to do that straight away. One need first to learn where one can do it.

[Gio Takahashi]

From the way I see it, various options are visible and easy to find. Nowadays, anyone could easily find information, using google and all.

[Mydra]

It is, if user is enough diligent to try to disable it.
And, what about users who doesn't know anything about computers? Isn't Windows our easy-to-use OS?

I haven't really used Vista, only when it was in RC stage. But I must say when I used it, the settings were even crappier than kde3's, or XP's. I just were simple confused how they worked.

[llama_egg]

The reason I dislike Vista is due to the fact it's actually got tons of drivers issues. For example, for selected sounds cards people have actually had to get 3rd parter drivers, and some cards down right not even work anymore. Until the drivers get up and going, I'll stick with my XP. But saying that, Vista is nice to use at times, my laptop has it, and it really can be helpful.

And killer, my last post wasn't directed at you, but det who asked if his OC could be causing problems. Also, I have read your previous posts, and that's why I never said you have to. The reason I overclock everything is to prevent myself from getting rusty. It makes a huge difference when you have a chip going from 2,000mhz to 3,---mhz.

Also, Crogg, the 6000+ is nearly as fast as she gets already, and doesn't leave much leeway. Normally you only actually see people push it to 3,3--mhz due to the fact you have to raise your volts to get higher then that. The highest I believe was 3,9--mhz.

[Gio Takahashi]

Well I'm pretty sure that the driver issues virtually disappeared as of Vista SP1.

[llama_egg]

I've heard it fixed some things and actually affected others. I only skimmed through a magazine that had a 4 page article about it.

[Killer_Man_]

I heard XP is going to stop being sold in June of this year.

Anyway, what I mean by linux = back up/internet.

Is that I use Linux cause Linux you can't really get viri that much, much like you can't get viri on a Mac. I use Linux partition to back up any important files and then format XP if XP fucks up.

[Bodomi]

If you're refering to user account control, you can easily turn that off.

Nope.
It's things like IP settings. It took me a while to figure out where the hell to even find them.

[llama_egg]

I heard XP is going to stop being sold in June of this year.

Look again, XP is being sold till either 2010 or one year after Windows 7 comes out, depending on what happens first.

[BillmasterZ]

I'm just in here to say that I used to be on the all "VISTA SUX LOL" but really guys they fixed shit up with SP1. If you got a fairly new comp Vista SP1 should run fine on it.

[BillmasterZ]

There is nothing wrong with over clocking as long as you can keep the baby cool.

Edit: Besides maybe shorter cpu life span but meh.

[Aingeleag]

Well, the day before yesterday I was in Best Buy browsing. And I had a sudden impulse to do something crazy. My desktop tower that I've been using, well I got that back in 01-02. So be as it may, she was starting to make some grinding noises, especially with WoW and Photoshop. So I decided to be kind before she went kapoot and let her go into early retirement. So my new CPU is as follows (as much of the info as I can find on this Vista thing LOL I'm still adjusting)



AMD Phenom? triple-core processor 8400
3GB DDR2 SDRAM
double-layer DVD?RW/CD-RW drive with LightScribe labeling
640GB hard drive capacity
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE graphics
15-in-1 media reader
Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1

So don't mind me, I'm oogling stuff.. my old one I upgraded the RAM to 1GB LOL Also had like half of the hard drive space. Plus I also have a MyBook external storage, so I'm going to be loading up on anime now methinks. Plus now I have room for drawings. Lot and lots of PDFs. ^_^

[llama_egg]

Huh, I'm surprised that the AMD triple cores are already being pushed into mainstream systems, last time I checked they just came out (though I haven't been paying to much attention to them).

But for someone who doesn't do heavy gaming or graphic arts she's a pretty decent rig. Though that integrated video card is going to be hurting if you try and play any heavier games.

But I guess congrats on upgrading is in order, don't know how you lasted so long o_O

[Detrevni]

How do the AMD triple cores measure up to the intel quad cores?

This is actually the first I've heard of the triple core.

[llama_egg]

Well, they won't hold up to a quad core, as it well...doesn't have 4 cores. But it's better then a duel core. Best way to think about it is that a triple core will be better at multitasking then a duel core, but not as well as a quad core.

That's why you will see alot of people arguing if they should get a quad or duel core processor, because for gaming, currently only will use 2 cores, and normally it is actually faster. But if you do alot of multitasking the 4 cores will actually help you more.

[Aingeleag]

So Llama, you think it will or won't help me with the graphic arts/gaming aspect? I only really had the lady at Best Buy to ask about it, but she seemed to know things (she's the sr. computer person). But I'm hoping that I did something good with this. At least I know that it's not making grinding noises while running programs, and I've already moved over a lot off my external hard drive and it doesn't seem phased in the least. So I know at least my picture heavy folders shouldn't make it hack and wheeze.

Anyone else have any opinion? I really don't know much about all this processors and graphics and all of that. :p

[tjkitsune]

Hm. Let's see... Nothing great here.. It's more practical for business purposes...sorta..

Model: HP Pavilian m7674n
OS: Vista Ultimate 32-bit w/service pack 1
RAM: 2GB
HDD: 400GB
Graphics: NVidia 8500GT
Processor: Duo Core 2 6400 (2.13GHz)
Media Storage: DVD?RW/CD-RW drive with LightScribe labeling
15-in-1 card reader
Wireless network card

[Killer_Man_]

It will help you game, don't worry about it. Especially for WoW that is a nice rig.

By the way, I thought AMD had quads too?

But to be honest, I don't see having so many cores beyond 2 is so great about it but meh.

Even if AMD tri-cores are so slow compared to quad, I'd still be happy with a AMD unless of course they go out of bussiness or it's obvious to get an intel one.

[llama_egg]

Ok, first, yes, AMD also has quad core CPU's, while cheaper, it's also slower then Intel's counterparts.

Second, I've already mentioned HOW going beyond 2 cores help. It helps with multitasking and very CPU heavy tasks.

Third, you don't have much to worry about that rig. Like I said, the only thing that's really hurting is your video card, and that's an easy upgrade down the road. Because of this, while it will run WoW, it's highly likely you won't be running it on the fullest settings. As for Photoshop and visual art side of things, this normally take more out of your CPU/RAM then your video card, so really, I doubt you have much to worry about in that aspect.

Also, what files you have shouldn't be causing the heavy grinding. From the top of my head I would say your hard drive is likely gonna go kaput soon. I'm also standing by this fact considering the HDD is what, 5-6 years old? I could be wrong, but going by what you have given us, I would say that's the mastermind.

[Mydra]

Second, I've already mentioned HOW going beyond 2 cores help. It helps with multitasking and very CPU heavy tasks.

Wrong. multiple cores helps with threaded programs, single threaded programs can use only one core.

Old games most likely aren't threaded - atleast correctly - because it's lots of harder to write threaded program than singlethreaded one. With no significant benefit, I would have not done it.

When you have quadcore, you could be able to, like, keep ten programs on, and play smoothly. But, if you shut these programs, your game shouldn't go any more fast if it can't use all these quad cores.

Enough clear...?

[llama_egg]

That's why I said it helps with multitasking. -_-

[Mydra]

see the and. :P

[Aingeleag]

Well cool then :D Yeah, I don't really mind the video thing, if it comes to it I can always do the upgrade. My old cpu had an NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP 8x graphics card. It ran things just fine for me. Granted my screenshots weren't the super-spiffy ones you'd see most places, but things loaded and I could play. So yeah, this one is quiet as a lamb and is handling the multi-tasking perfectly (I'm downloading WoW patches and a couple of torrents right now too).

[Mydra]

Downloading shouldn't be problem with cpu, but with bandwidth...

Anyway, even plain Win needs multitasking to work, so...

The more cpu heavy tasks you run at same time, you also can/need more cores to have them to run at their optimical speed.

one core in dual core could not be faster than single core one, so if you can't use more than one... Well, future is here and technology advances.

[RonDo]

Alrighty

self build:

Intel E4500
Vista 32-Bit (Home Prem)
1GB x4 Corsair PC6400 ram (haha..)
1 300GB & 1 80GB hard drives internal (250gb and 300gb externals)
XFX 8800GT 512MB video card
And some thermaltake powersupply in an old Antec lan boy case
attached to a 24" soyo 1080 LCD.

[Detrevni]

32-bit vista can run more than 3 gigs of RAM? I thought 3 gigs was the limit for 32 bit systems o.o

[RonDo]

32-bit vista can run more than 3 gigs of RAM? I thought 3 gigs was the limit for 32 bit systems o.o

Hence my little tag at the end of that line (haha...) -_-

If I had another box to dump them into right now, I would..but I just let it sit in there instead of sitting around in a drawer somewhere.

[Mydra]

you stupid idiots, try to read what others has written.

No, 32bit's limit is 4G, but because of certain reason only ~3G of that can be used.

[DarkStar]

Some piece of shit compaq laptop. lololol.

[DoomKitty]

Some piece of shit compaq laptop. lololol.

Atleast it isn't an EMachines laptop. ;)

*wins for crappiness*

[DarkStar]

The only thing I am happy about is I don't have Vista.

[Arainach]

The only thing I am happy about is I don't have Vista.Have you even used it? Everyone I know (myself included) hated it until they actually installed it and tried it. It's superior to XP in every way. It feels faster, it's more secure, it looks better......

I don't remember the specs of my Desktop in Detail. Asus Mobo, AMD 64 x2 4800+ (2.4Ghz), 2GB RAM, 20" Dell LCD, a shitload of hard drives.

My Laptop:
Dell Latitude D620
Intel C2D 1.8Ghz
2GB RAM
80GB Hard Drive
1440x900 screen

[DoomKitty]

I've used Vista and I hate it. xP

[llama_egg]

Now that I don't agree with, my laptop has Vista, and while it's not bad...I surely wouldn't be calling it good yet. And by faster I believe you mean slower, you basically have to turn off all the fun little features of vista to make it run nicely on less then two gigs of ram. And the only security feature I come to mind is the "Are you sure you want to...? feature, which I turned off after a week.

I'll be sticking with XP until they finally throw us Windows 7, and we shall see from there.

[Aingeleag]

I've got Vista now on this desktop.. I kinda like the asking me if I'm sure I want to let this run, etc. (but it is kinda hard to remember it's there when it goes behind some other window). Otherwise I don't have any arguments with it. It's just mostly the adjusting to where things are that will take getting used to. Oh, and a few things were renamed, which confuses me more, but I'll adjust.

[Crogg]

Have you even used it? Everyone I know (myself included) hated it until they actually installed it and tried it. It's superior to XP in every way. It feels faster, it's more secure, it looks better......

Well I tend to stay out of this thread as much as I can, had to comment. I used Vista for on a variety of different systems for quite a while (Part of doing bug testing and such for software, as well as personal use)... and I absolutely hate Vista. I've given it a shot in a variety of stages in it's life cycle and I despise it.

I have found XP to be far faster (Most people don't max out their rigs, I do. It is indeed noticeable). As far as being more secure, I've never had any security issues with XP (Security is easy, it's all about using common sense. Vista is great for those without). As far as looks, I hate the new Vista look. To me Vista is a horrible operating system. And while it is not Microsoft's fault, they really fucked up with the entire driver issue. :eek: So put me down for one that has really tried to like Vista, but came out hating it. I wanted to like it, in fact I was really excited about some of the changes before they started stripping features out.

With that said, I often recommend Vista to most people getting a new PC. It's a pretty solid operating system for most people, just not me. Exceptions to a Vista recommendation are those in the design or development community, or those that know what they are doing.

[Gio Takahashi]

I can agree with Arainach. I've found Vista to be quite superior to XP, yes including the fact that it runs faster than XP as well.

[RonDo]

I've been running Vista for a little while now and I find it to be perfectly fine for what I do on a regular basis.

[deathofcheese]

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 (2.66 GHz, 4M shared L2 cache, 1333 MHz FSB)
1GB x 2 GSkill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800)
EVGA nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB GDDR3
EVGA nVidia GeFore 680i SLI mobo
WD Caviar 500 GB SATA
WD Caviar 750 GB SATA
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Sound Blaster X-Fi
Coolmax 650W PSU

I built this myself last summer, but I'm considering getting a much smaller case (the one I picked turned out to be a behemoth), another 2 GB of ram, another video card to do the sli connector with, and probably another 750 gb hdd.

Oh yeah, I'm running XP Pro on it.

The laptop I got three summers ago for college:
Dell Inspiron 6000
15.4 in (1680 x 1050)
Intel Pentium M (2 GHz)
1.5 GB DDR2
Sony 8x DVD+/-RW
128 MB ATI Mobility Radeon X300

The 60 gb hdd is split into dual-boot XP Pro and Xubuntu. I've been trying to hack Mac OS X onto it, but my processor doesn't have SSE3, so it's a pain.

[Inforcer]

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs)
Memory: 8188MB RAM Corsair XMS2 DDR800
Hard Drive: 2x 500 GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA2 32MB Cache
Video Card: 2x NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB PCI-e SLI
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2235wm
Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Extreme Gamer
Speakers/Headphones: Logitech Z5300 5.1 THX
Keyboard: Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro)
Mouse: Razer Diamondback Special Limited Edition
Mouse Surface: Guild Wars Collector's Edition
Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Service Pack 2
Case: Thermaltake Armor

[Gio Takahashi]

o.o

Okay. Only word I can think of is overpowered

[Inforcer]

It should last me for awhile :) Works great at LAN's

[Mydra]

I wouldn't say so. I could easily use about half of memory just putting few background programs on, other 4G would be very useful for compilement and random games. And maybe I get something fun to run too? WinXP anyone? ^^

Processors are slow. Far too slow.

Only thing I don't need is display adapters, but for gamers they are useful, no? ;P

Btw, I have same mouse.

[Inforcer]

Decided to go with 8GB xms2 ram because the 4gb dominator ram was another $100 to $150 dollars. Granted the dominator is 1066mhz while the xms2 is 800mhz.

Mydra - I love the mouse. Works very nicely for gaming :) The dual cards does work great for gamers ;)

[Mydra]

Yeah, though I don't play that often, I'm very happy with this mouse. I've used logitech's newest mice and I must say I like them much less.

[llama_egg]

God, I never found a use pass 4 gigs of ram, let alone 8. God, what are you doing? Better be heavy photo editing or something.

Also, I hate to say it, but SLI cards aren't that good, it does give a boost to gaming, but it also doesn't give enough jump to say "Holy shit, I need to buy one".

Also, I'm shocked at no overclocking. That rig is SCREAMING to be overclocked. Especially the processor.

[Mydra]

I don't see a reason in overclocking if you have new machine.

For me it really goes to programs. Little photo editing what I do is lightweight, 3D modeling takes much more memory. More memory -> more programs running at same time.

Seems that current kde4 trunk's plasma leaks memory, so the system(X + kde4) would be totally unusable with even 1G memory stick. Totally.

[Seegtease]

llama is jealous. Yar.

Nothing impressive but:
Windows XP
Pentium 2.8ghz dual core
Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (old I know, but I don't care)
2 gigs DDR2 RAM (forget other details of it)
Radeon X1950 (PCI-E)
19" acer widescreen LCD

Oddly enough I don't remember most of my other specs, even though I built it. I haven't had time or money to do much computer work these days, so I'm getting rusty.

[Mydra]

I just got new display <3 Mydra is happy now.

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2401w/index.asp

[RonDo]

I just got new display <3 Mydra is happy now.

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2401w/index.asp

24" lcd doesn't seem all that big until you get it on your desk. At least on mine..going from the 19 to the 24 made a big difference on available space.

[Mydra]

I could easily put even 30", I have that much space here. Though I'm not going to put my old 17" as dual display.

[SomaticCorpse]

Mine is self-built:
2.4Ghz Intel Pentium IV
2.5 Gb RAM DDR-II Dual-Channel
NVIDIA 6800 w/256 Mb RAM
ITE 8212 RAID controller running RAID 0+1
Over 360Gb Hard Disk Space
SONY DVD +/- RW (Dual Layer)
Creative Soundblaster Live 5.1
500W Power Supply

It's in Louisiana, right now... I let my friend borrow/have it, since hers crashed. She's the wife of my best friend. I hope I get it back, soon :)

[Inforcer]

Just got a new laptop. Here are the specs.

Dell XPS M1730 Black/Gray Laptop
Microsoft Vista Home Premium
Intel Centrino Core Duo 2.4ghz T8300
4GB DDR2-667mhz RAM
160GB 7200RPM SATA hard drive
nVidia Geforce 8700GT 256MB
Ageia Physx 100m adaptar
17" HD 1920x1200 WUXGA screen
8x DVD+/-RW drive
Wireless and Bluetooth
Logitech LCD management screen

A new toy to play with and a new OS to figure out. So far everything seems to be working just fine.

[Mydra]

Just bought new display adapter and keyboard, as old ones is broken...

1 1536 Logitech Wave keyboard Fin/Swe. Ergon
1 33703 XFX GeForce 9600 GT 512MB DDR3 XXX PCI-E

[Z]

Work Comp:

Mac OS X
Ver. 10.5.3
Processor: 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 4 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM

With a CD/DVD Burner/Reader.

[Nad]

Upped slightly: 2x 1GB Kingston 400mhz RAM and boosted my cousins nvidia gefore 4 mx 400 128mb gfx card so age of empires 3 will run slightly better (they said my radeon 7000 would not support but i got it working fine ;/)

[Charlie]

Updated minorly since my previous post. The bold parts state where they've taken place at.

Manufacturer : Dell Dimension DV051
Mainboard : Dell 0JC474
Chipset : Intel i915GV
Processor : Intel Pentium 4 524 @ 3066 MHz
Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801
Monitor Type : Dell Computer DELL E177FP - 17 inches
Network Card : Intel Corporation 82562EZ PRO/100 Ethernet Controller
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3
DirectX : Version 10.00

[deathofcheese]

Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3
DirectX : Version 10.00Wait, huh? Since when was XP allowed to get DX10? I thought Microsoft was pretty clear/adamant on the issue that they weren't going to port it.

Thanks for bumping this. I have some updates to make to my computers as well:

Desktop:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 (2.66 GHz, 4M shared L2 cache, 1333 MHz FSB)
2GB x 2 G.Skill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800) (4 GB total)
EVGA nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB GDDR3
EVGA nVidia GeFore 680i SLI mobo
WD Caviar 500 GB SATA
WD Caviar 750 GB SATA x2 (what can I say? I'm a packrat; now I'm at about 2 TB total)
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Sound Blaster X-Fi
Coolmax 650W PSU

Laptop:
Dell Inspiron 6000
15.4 in (1680 x 1050)
Intel Pentium M (2 GHz)
1.5 GB DDR2
Sony 8x DVD+/-RW
128 MB ATI Mobility Radeon X300
(not really a "change" but I formatted and went back to only XP Pro)

[Charlie]

I've got my ways... ;)

[Bloodcinder]

Way (http://www.google.com/search?q=directx+10+xp).

[Bloodcinder]

An Acer Extensa 4420-5963 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1211587727715&type=product).

Name: ThiRD
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 (64-bit dual core 1.9ghz)
Hard Drive: 160gb 5400rpm SATA
RAM: 2gb PC2-5300 DDR2 (max 4gb)
Screen: 14.1", 1280x800
Weight: 5.4 libs
Connectivity: 802.11b/g, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 2.0 x4, IEEE 1394 x1
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1250
Miscellany: optical multi-writer, multi-card reader

That's all I feel is pertinent.

[DarkStar]

I have presario v6000 laptop. It sucks and I want a new one.

[tjkitsune]

This is the spec of the new Engineering machines I just got in and am in the process of deploying. We got 8 of these suckers in. They look real sweet and run nicely. I tried to mirror HP's Blackbird 002 gaming machine, but tweeked some of the parts to better fit engineering's need for running Inventor 2009 and the new AutoCAD.

Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz
12MB LGA775 EM64T CPU,

RAM Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2 800MHz Memory Module -
DHX SERIES

VIDEO CARD PNY nVidia Quadro FX1700 512MB 2DVI/HDTV
PCI-Express Video Card

CD-ROM LITE-ON 20x DVD-RW Drive with LightScribe -SATA

SOFTWARE-CD Genuine Microsoft? Windows? Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
with Service Pack 1 installed

HARD DRIVE SEAGATE 160GB 7200RPM SATA 16MB BUFFER -
RAID 0 - STRIPED

MTHBOARD EVGA nForce 780i SLI Desktop Board - nVIDIA nForce
780i SLI - Socket 775 - 1333MHz, 1066MHz, 800MHz,
533MHz FSB - 8GB - DDR2 SDRAM -
DDR2-1200/PC2-9600, DDR2-800/PC2-6400,
DDR2-667/PC2-5300, DDR2-533/PC2-4200 - SLI - ATX -
Desktop Board

CASE Antec Sonata Plus 550 Chassis, 550W Antec Power
supply - ATX Tower

[deathofcheese]

In regards to my video card misbehaving, I asked my old roommate about it and he told me something similar happened to him before his old GeForce 6800 before he upgraded to a 7 or 8 series. I'm cleaning it now and crossing my fingers as I put it back together, but if it does turn out to have died, I think I'll go with one of the new 9800s (I've been eyeing a 9800 GTX speccing out a computer for a friend) as a replacement.

[Arainach]

Been a while since I've posted in this thread:

Lenovo X200 Tablet (Caligula)
Intel C2D SL9400 (1.86Ghz, 6MB L2)
3GB DDR3 RAM
12.1" 1280x800 Screen (Wacom Pen/Touch Support)
160GB 5400RPM HD
2GB Intel Turbocache
9 Cell Battery
Bluetooth, Webcam, Microphone
Docking Bay w/ 8X DVD-RW
Intel 5300 A/G/N Wireless

Dell Latitude D620 (Commodus)
Intel C2D T2300 1.67Ghz/3MB L2
3GB DDR2 RAM
14" 1400x900 Screen
120GB 5400RPM HD
6 Cell Battery
Dell 1390 A/G Wireless

Desktop (Tiberius)
AMD X2 4800+ (2.4Ghz, 2MB L2)
2GB PC3200 DDRAM, Corsair Value
2x 20" 1600x1200 screens (total 3200x1200)
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
512MB eVGA 7950GT GPU
Hard Drives: 250, 250, 500 (Internal), 250, 750 (External) - Total 2TB
Chaintech AV-710 Sound Card (connected via Optical to Yamaha RX-V559 Receiver -> Grado RS-1 Headphones, B&W 685 Speakers)

Bonus points for guessing my computer naming scheme.

[llama_egg]

All related to Roman emperors?

Will be posting me new rig once I finally grab the last of the parts. The new 4890's are out, can't wait to get my hands on one (or two *shifty eyes*)!

[Seegtease]

Nacho
CPU: Core 2 Quad Q8200 (4 x 2.33GHz - 1333 FSB - 4MB Cache)
Motherboard: ECS G43TM
RAM: 4GB DDR2 - PC6400 / 800MHz
Hard Drive: 500GB SATA2 U300 7200RPM Hard Drive / 150 7200RPM HD
PSU: Zumax 650 Watt Power Supply (Dual & Quad Core Certified) - PCIe 2.0 Compliant
Graphics: nVidia Geforce 9800GT 512MB PCI Express X16

Got it a few weeks ago. My other one (Burrito) was not running like it was supposed to. I thought it might have been a mobo problem, could have also been PSU. I felt like getting an upgrade anyway, and I've been quite pleased with the gaming performance of this new system.

[Arainach]

All related to Roman emperors?

Will be posting me new rig once I finally grab the last of the parts. The new 4890's are out, can't wait to get my hands on one (or two *shifty eyes*)!Lousy Roman Emperors, to be specific. If I ever have occasion to have 4 machines at once, the fourth will probably be Nero.

[Bodomi]

I has an upgrade!

Power Supply: Xilence 550W (Enough for me. For now.)
Motherboard: ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition
RAM: 2Gb DDR2-800
Hard Disk: Internal: 750Gb IDE , 320Gb SATA | External, 2x1Tb
Optical: NEC - ND-3500AG
Graphic Card \ Chip: NVIDIA GeForce 7025 (integrated on motherboard, not that good...)
Sound Card \ Chip: Some integrated Realtek thingie.
Screen: BenQ G2200W (22")
Operating System(s): Windows 7 beta (x64)

Work in progress...
I'll add more memory and get a graphics card when my wallet allows it.

[llama_egg]

I really didn't post my rig info? Huh...well, better late then never.

Power Supply: Antec Truepower Quattro 850w
Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58-EXTREME
CPU: Intel Core i7 920
RAM: 3x2gb OCZ Gold DDR3-1866 (placeholder till I manage to get higher OC'ing ram)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 4890
Sound Card: Auzentech Forte (Love the shit out of this card)
OS: Windows XP 32bit/Windows Vista 64bit (Windows 7 preordered.)
I currently have cash set aside for a new case (Silverstone Temjin TJ07B-W), as well as a second 4890. Also need to upgrade my watercooling loop, but that has to wait a bit.

[deathofcheese]

You thought I was a packrat before, eh? Just like that, I put in another hard drive, 1 TB, to bring my total up to about 3 TB. What? My movies/anime/tv shows hard drive was almost 90% full.

Desktop:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 (2.66 GHz, 4M shared L2 cache, 1333 MHz FSB)
2GB x 2 G.Skill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800)
1 GB G.Skill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800) (had a couple sticks lying around and figured, "what the hell?")
EVGA nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB GDDR3
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB GDDR5 (because I thought my old card died)
EVGA nVidia GeFore 680i SLI mobo
WD Caviar 500 GB SATA
WD Caviar 750 GB SATA x2
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB SATA
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Sound Blaster X-Fi
Coolmax 650W PSU

I'm kinda considering looking into water cooling, if only so I can turn off some of the fans on my case. But I don't want to do that until I get settled for life (only plan on staying here for a year, if that long, before moving around a lot) and wouldn't care about having my desktop out of commission for a week or more.

[llama_egg]

Just remember, you still need fans for watercooling, and it's a fairly costly adventure (not to mention quite a chunk of research). Though speaking of fans, you could probably get away with a 2 fan loop, so there won't be that many but still.

[Bodomi]

Power Supply: Xilence 550W (Enough for me. For now.)
Motherboard: ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition
RAM: 2Gb DDR2-800 4Gb DDR2-800
Hard Disk: Internal: 750Gb IDE , 320Gb SATA , 1Tb SATA | External, 2x1Tb
Optical: NEC - ND-3500AG TSSTcorp_CD/DVDW_SH-S182
Graphic Card \ Chip: NVIDIA GeForce 7025 (integrated on motherboard, not that good...)
Sound Card \ Chip: Some integrated Realtek thingie.
Screen: BenQ G2200W (22")
Operating System(s): Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)

Still need the graphics card. This integrated one sucks.

[Detrevni]

I have several upgrades since the last post I made. :)

PSU: Thermaltake 650W Black Widow
Motherboard: Asus M4A78T-E
CPU: Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.2 gHz
RAM: 8 Gb of 1333 DDR 3 G.Skill
Hard Drives: 1 x 80Gb Intel SSD 1 x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1 x 750Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm drive, 1 x Old ass 164 Gb Western digital IDE drive
Optical Drive: LG BD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive
Graphics: EVGA nVidia GTX 285 1 GB DDR3
Sound: Onboard Via chipset
Monitor: 23 " Samsung P2370 LED Monitor
OS: Windows 7 x 64 Ultimate Edition

All in a full tower with 7 120 mm LED fans and 1 LED 80mm fan. I love my machine. :)

Death of Cheese: Your 4870 uses GDDR5 memory, not DDR 3

[deathofcheese]

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB GDDR5 (because I thought my old card died)I stand corrected. Thanks.

[Detrevni]

No worries. That's a good card. I had the 1 gb one in my primary machine for a while, but now I've got it downstairs on my media PC.

[Colonel Skills]

Graphics: EVGA nVidia GTX 285 1 GB DDR3


Bought this exact thing three weeks ago and I'm loving it, very nice~

[Detrevni]

It is a sexy, sexy piece of circuitry. Though right now I'm already coveting the ATI Radeon 5870. *drools*

[llama_egg]

That it is, I almost picked one up but I figured I might as well wait and see how nvidia's next card holds up.

[Killer_Man_]

I'm still enjoying my 640 MB 8800 GTS. Though at times it likes to run a bit hot but I'm still enjoying it.

Though I think there is something missing cause games like L4D, I can't run on full graphics or multicore rendering or else it gets choppy and with multicore on, it gets all laggy/freezy on me.

Then again I only have 2 gigs of RAM and 2.8 GHZ AMD

[deathofcheese]

I would at least like to double the RAM I have, and if I can afford it, sell the two SLI video cards I have to get a 1 GB or more one, though from nVidia or ATI I haven't decided yet. I get enamored with nVidia after having a serious one for awhile, and this ATI card hasn't wowed me (although it hasn't put me off from ATI either). If I ever make it far enough into the black to consider upgrading my computer, I'll have to start watching the news about upgrades like that.

[llama_egg]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/llamaegg/DSC00107.jpg

BAM!

[Arainach]

It occurs to me that I haven't updated this since I updated my setup. Basically, I built a "new" desktop (all the parts except case/PSU/Video Card were used), made my old desktop into a Home Server (with a set of 3 new shiny hard drives), and added an HTPC.

Current Machine Heirarchy:

Tiberius [Primary Desktop]

Biostar TP45-HP motherboard (I'm not proud of it, but it's given me no troubles)
Intel Q6600 (4x 2.4Ghz cores, 2x 4MB L2)
4GB A-Data PC2-6400 RAM
Sapphire VaporX HD 5770
Hard Drives: 250GB, 500GB, 250GB
2x 20" 1600x1200 LCDs (1 Samsung, 1 Dell)
Windows 7 Ultimate

Caligula [Primary Laptop]

Lenovo X200 Tablet
Intel L9400 (2x 1.86Ghz, 6MB L2)
3GB RAM
Intel X3100 Graphics
160GB Hard Drive
Windows 7 Ultimate

Commodus [Home Server]

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard
AMD X2 4400+
2GB PC3200 RAM
NVIDIA 7950GT Graphics Card
3x 1.5TB Hard Drives
Windows Home Server

Nero [HTPC]

Zotac Mag (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173001)
Intel Atom Dual-Core Processor
NVIDIA Ion Graphics
160GB HDD
Windows 7 Ultimate

A couple pictures of my main desktop since pics seem like the latest rage:

http://www.cse.msu.edu/~beckbria/tiberius1.jpg http://www.cse.msu.edu/~beckbria/tiberius2.jpg

[Detrevni]

Here's a picture of my baby. No real updates to the hardware, though. Other than the new 26 inch monitor.

[Killer_Man_]

I love how you are using year books to prop your monitors up.

[Arainach]

I have that wallpaper in my wallpaper collection somewhere. Nice shot.

[deathofcheese]

I love how you are using year books to prop your monitors up.For a while, I was using my Linear Algebra book (the one course I failed spectacularly at, and subsequently reviled for more reasons than "linear algebra sucks") to lift my one non-rising monitor up above the level of my center speaker, and later to match the height of the sliding monitor I got. I figured it was a better use for it, since it certainly didn't serve me very well as a font of academic knowledge.

[Arainach]

Books work well. At work, my 22" monitor sits lower than my 20" and my 24" and isn't height-adjustable, so I sit it on a copy of this book (it's obsolete and irrelevant to my job anyhow)

[Colonel Skills]

There are several .net jokes to be made there in general at that statement, but here I sit unable to formulate a good one.

Shame on me. :(

[Charlie]

My new rig, as of today:


E-Machine ET1331G-05W
750 GB HD
AMD Athlon II 250u Dual Core Processor
Windows 7 Home Premium
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Integrated
DVD-Super Multi-Drive
4 GB DDR2 Memory
Multi-In-One Digital Media Manager


With a seperately bought 21.5 inch, Full HD, 1920x1080 monitor to match. :D

[deathofcheese]

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE IntegratedEw, integrated graphics. Good luck trying to play games with that, but pretty sweet you got a new computer. How bad was your old one?

[llama_egg]

Most branded computers save money by running with integrated from the best of my knowledge. It's kinda like the bloat ware that always come's pre-installed.

THANKS I NEEDED THIS EBAY SHORTCUT!

Anywho, grats on the new computer and monitor, nice large displays are sexy time.

[Killer_Man_]

Most branded computers save money by running with integrated from the best of my knowledge. It's kinda like the bloat ware that always come's pre-installed.

THANKS I NEEDED THIS EBAY SHORTCUT!

Anywho, grats on the new computer and monitor, nice large displays are sexy time.

Reminds me of the first comp I got, for xmas, it came with so much shit I told my Dad lets just format and reinstall windows and we did.

[Arainach]

Since my last update I've updated my Primary Monitor (goodbye dying Samsung, hello Dell U2410) and Primary Hard Drive (that blasted 250GB Seagate may never die, but I decided I wanted a 1TB 64MB Cache WD Black anyway because it's that much faster). New Specs:

Biostar TP45-HP motherboard (I'm not proud of it, but it's given me no troubles)
Intel Q6600 (4x 2.4Ghz cores, 2x 4MB L2)
4GB A-Data PC2-6400 RAM
Sapphire VaporX HD 5770
Hard Drives: 1TB WD Black 6.0Gb/s, 500GB, 250GB
Dell U2410, Dell 2001FP Monitors (total resolution 3520x1200)
Windows 7 Ultimate

I'd also really like to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, but that stuff costs money, which is something I don't really want to spend right now.

[deathofcheese]

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
EVGA nVidia GeForce 680i SLI mobo
4 x 2GB G.Skill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB GDDR5
WD Caviar 500 GB SATA
WD Caviar 750 GB SATA x2
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB SATA
WD Caviar 1 TB SATA
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Sound Blaster X-Fi
So now I've got ~3.7 TB (according to Windows) of hard drive space. And I doubled my RAM to 8190 MB (8 GB). Yay.

I want to upgrade my CPU, but the only way to do that effectively would be to upgrade my mobo to a new socket type (either LGA 1156 or 1366, probably the latter by the time I get enough money), so I'll need to wait for a job. =\

[Charlie]

Ew, integrated graphics. Good luck trying to play games with that, but pretty sweet you got a new computer. How bad was your old one?

If your primary use for a computer just revolves around listening to music, or going online, since the RAM on it was upgraded to 2 GB, it's not too bad really. But if you're planning on doing more than that (for example, broadcasting on Justin.TV, or something else particularly taxing on system specs), it's not really the kind of computer you could feel comfortable doing it with. Don't even get me started on trying to game with it. Maybe with a new video card it'd be okay for some of them, but hell... it couldn't even run San Andreas above low settings. Even on low it lagged in some areas.

So, yeah. Just throw a new power supply/video card in this thing when I get the money to, and I should be good for a couple years.

[Arainach]

I'd also really like to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, but that stuff costs money, which is something I don't really want to spend right now.Oh, yeah, I did end up doing this. This is all.

[Colonel Skills]

Psh. 8.

Real ballers roll with 12

WHAT NOW

HOW YOU GONNA ACT

[Arainach]

HOW YOU GONNA ACTOh SNAP.

Actually, 8 is more than enough for my purposes - like on my dev machine at work [Q9300/8GB RAM], I suspect most of the intensive stuff I do is more I/O limited than CPU/RAM limited anyhow. The only time I really max out the system is video encoding, where a newer CPU (I've toyed with the idea of getting a used Q9550 for power/heat/CPU gains, but keep delaying it) would help more than 12GB of RAM.

[Colonel Skills]

Yeah, in the end I have never even come close to using it. I picked it up because I got a good deal on it and felt like future proofing at least one further aspect of this rig.

Of course, with CryEngine 3 being developed for console platforms simultaneously (probably as a lead actually), it's likely that was a huge fucking waste for the near future anyway. Especially since the only people developing PC software are focusing on scalability and everything else garmin related is console lead still so OH WELL

[Killer_Man_]

I don't know, L4D2/L4D/Borderlands looks 500% better on the PC.

[Colonel Skills]

Erm, Source is an old VERY SCALABLE engine, which doesn't fall into what I was talking about, and Borderlands was a fuck awful console port that barely worked; requiring .ini tweaking to change anything, had an awful online interface, crashed a lot, and just flat out didn't have many of the features required of a PC game in this day and age.

Yeah, sure, running a game at a 1080+ native res is going to "look" better, but that's not saying much if the remainder of the assets are console carry overs or if the port job is just a lazy sack of crap.

[Killer_Man_]

Erm, Source is an old VERY SCALABLE engine, which doesn't fall into what I was talking about, and Borderlands was a fuck awful console port that barely worked; requiring .ini tweaking to change anything, had an awful online interface, crashed a lot, and just flat out didn't have many of the features required of a PC game in this day and age.

Yeah, sure, running a game at a 1080+ native res is going to "look" better, but that's not saying much if the remainder of the assets are console carry overs or if the port job is just a lazy sack of crap.

That is true about the ini tweaking since I think you showed me how to change the ini to make the box text smaller. Though I didn't have many crashing but the online interface was aweful. Gamespy? Pfft. Who uses Gamespy still?

[Arainach]

People I've dealt with have dealt with some pretty awful crash rates with Borderlands, so I'd say CS is right on there.

[Colonel Skills]

Indeed, many of the people I rolled with have had issues with it crashing outright, and I had a whole WHACK of problems with zombie island DLC.

UNFORTUNATE :(

[Killer_Man_]

I only have the game through steam and the only four times I crashed was during multiplayer where I would crash to desktop with no error.

[llama_egg]

I've never had the game crash once, and I have all 3 DLC's D:

[deathofcheese]

I've never had the game crash once, and I have all 3 DLC's D:Me too; guess that makes you and me awesome, llama.

[Bodomi]

Some updates.
Had to replace the motherboard, the old one couldn't handle my processor. :p


Power Supply: Xilence 550W
Motherboard: ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS ASRock A780LM-S
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition
RAM: 4Gb DDR2-800
Hard Disk: Internal: 750Gb IDE , 320Gb SATA , 1Tb SATA | External: 2x1Tb, 1,5Tb
Optical: TSSTcorp_CD/DVDW_SH-S1828 Samsung 22x IDE DVD+/-RW (SH-S222A) (R.I.P. old burner)
Graphic Card \ Chip: MSI R4350
Sound Card \ Chip: Some integrated Realtek thingie.
Screen: BenQ G2200W (22")
Operating System(s): Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)

[Charlie]

Update! Either recently acquired (one asterisk), or will be acquired as of as soon as the money is there to do it (two asterisks):


E-Machine ET1331G-05W
750 GB HD
AMD Athlon II 250u Dual Core Processor
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Integrated
DVD-Super Multi-Drive
8 GB DDR2 A-DATA AD2U800B2G5-DRH Memory**
Multi-In-One Digital Media Manager
Logitech C510 HD 720p Webcam*

[Arainach]

Haven't managed to sell the tablet yet, but I've been looking for a bit more of a workhorse machine lately. I was all set to get a Lenovo W510 until HP last night decided to bring back the 1600x900 screen in the Envy 14 (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/13/hp-envy-14-aficionados-rejoice-radiance-displays-are-back-for-a/) for a limited time, meaning that my dream laptop once again existed. So I gave in and ordered one that should be here in a few weeks. Specs:


Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (I'll be upgrading this to Ultimate, just for far less money than HP wants for it) Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-740QM Quad Core processor (1.73GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 2.93 GHz 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core Processors 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm) (I’ll be upgrading this to 8GB myself) 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.0 hours of battery life +++ 14.5" diagonal HD+ HP Radiance Infinity LED Display (1600x900) SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support HP TrueVision HD Webcam and Dual Digital Integrated Microphones Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth (I believe this is the 6250, I forget) Backlit Keyboard

All in a magical Aluminum Unibody shell. I'm looking forward to it.

[Charlie]

RAM upgrade never happened. HOWEVER, as of two days ago:


E-Machine ET1331G-05W
750 GB HD
AMD Athlon II 250u Dual Core Processor
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
HIS Radeon 4670 HD Ice-Q Video Card w/1 GB DDR3 Video Memory*
DVD-Super Multi-Drive
4 GB DDR2 RAM
Multi-In-One Digital Media Manager
Logitech C510 HD 720p Webcam
XIGMATEK 700w Power Supply


Bought with my income tax money. Best investment I've made in a good long while. Sims 3/Garry's Mod/L4D look amazing now. And play WITHOUT lag. :D

[deathofcheese]

Put this off for a bit, but I think it's time for an update (that's actually a month or two old).

Previously:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
EVGA nVidia GeForce 680i SLI mobo
4 x 2GB G.Skill DDR2 SDRAM (DDR2 800)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB GDDR5
WD Caviar 500 GB SATA
WD Caviar 750 GB SATA x2
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB SATA
WD Caviar 1 TB SATA
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Sound Blaster X-Fi

Now:
Intel Core i5-2500K
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 LGA 1155
2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3 1600)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870
OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB SSD
WD Caviar 750 GB x2
WD Caviar 1 TB
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB
Lite-On 20x DVD+/-RW
Creative SB X-Fi

Sandy Bridge!!! I think the Windows install on my old hard drive had an aneurysm when it saw all the new shit. It would attempt to boot, and get as far as the "Starting Windows" logo, before it would blue screen for 0.1 seconds and attempt to boot again. I bit the bullet and ordered a new main hard drive, dropping the cash for an SSD. I still can't get over how fast shit transfers on or off it, or how quickly games load and Windows starts now. Probably mostly due to the Sandy Bridge stuff and new ram, though. So happy!

[Killer_Man_]

My new HDDs allow fast loads and fast boot ups, they are 7200 RPMs but the problem I have is that mine are suppose to be 3.0 GBs transfer rate between them or whatever but I heard that they don't because windows 7 doesn't have drivers to support it.

[deathofcheese]

If they're not SSDs, then they can't get near a 3.0 GB/s throughput speed. If they are SSDs, then disk revolution speed means nothing. The only drivers that Windows might need is if your SSDs work with your motherboard to get some kind of funky extra service thingy going on. My motherboard and SSD came with special SSD drivers, but that's because my board supports alternative disk controllers (Marvell shit) that doesn't work (or work well) natively like the Intel disk controllers can (or maybe I did have to install a driver for that also, I don't remember).

SATA is just a communication protocol that computer devices can use for data transmission. Kinda like the difference between RF and Bluetooth, or 802.11 b wireless and 802.11 g wireless.

[Killer_Man_]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

I bought two of them and it was suppose to be 6.0 GB/S but windows 7 doesn't support it and I'm using the new SATA 3.0 cables that came with my mother board.

[deathofcheese]

Pretty sure that's just a different spec of SATA that supports speeds up to 6.0 GB/s. I got a couple 6.0 GB/s SATA cords with my mobo, but I think I have to configure the drive controllers a special way in order to use it. This probably involves specialized drivers. My SSD is the only drive that can get close to 3.0 GB/s transfer speed, so I'm good with that.

[Killer_Man_]

Meh, I don't really HAVE to have it but to be honest, it would be faster than the 400 MBs it does and might even up my silly 'windows' score because it claims my HDs to be a 5.9 or something stupid like that.