Hallmark's Gay Cards Are Detrimental to Children

[Bloodcinder]

Source (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8783.html)...


"Concerned Women for America claim gay greeting cards are detrimental to children" by Rachel Charman, August 22, 2008.

Senior members of Concerned Women for America (CWA) have condemned Hallmark's marketing of greeting cards aimed at gays and lesbians. CWA is a women's Christian public policy group that opposes gay marriage, abortion, pornography and international organisations such as the UN.

Hallmark is now producing same-sex wedding cards featuring two tuxedos, overlapping hearts or intertwined flowers, with best wishes inside. The language inside the cards is neutral, with no mention of wedding or marriage, making them also suitable for a commitment ceremony. Hallmark says the move is a response to consumer demand, not any political pressure.

CWA is opposed to the gay cards and warns that Hallmark's move will damage their sales.

Wendy Wright, President of CWA said: "Hallmark is jeopardizing its brand as a family-friendly company. Customers used to be able to trust Hallmark to produce quality products that were safe for all ages. Now parents will need to steer their kids from Hallmark's section of the greeting card aisle and away from its previously heart-warming movies for fear that they too will push homosexual messages."

Janice Crouse, Director and Senior Fellow of CWA's research unit, the Beverly LaHaye Institute, said: "By latching onto the latest fad generated by the homosexual special interest groups, Hallmark is negating its image as a wholesome company that promotes American values and pro-family principles in its products. American businesses have a corporate responsibility to the public that buys their products. Instead of bolstering campaigns by special interest groups like the homosexual activists, corporations like Hallmark should be protecting American culture from those forces that would destroy the family and create a public environment that is detrimental to general well-being, especially children's well-being."

These people are why the h-word feels so offensive. Also, I'm not sure why a card with two tuxedos or overlapping hearts would ruin a child's life. Also, the phrase "pro-family" used by those people just means "pro-our-kind-of-family."

[deathofcheese]

While I think I sound a bit much like an activist spouting "We're queer and we're here!" nonsense, I think it might be more detrimental to children to deny the existence of other kinds of people. It's like you raise kids to truly believe that America is the only and greatest country the world has ever seen without letting them come to that conclusion themselves based on what the world is like. They're going to end up retarded, or something.

[Gio Takahashi]

Definitely agree that not bringing up the gay awareness toward the children is more detrimental than blocking it off from the kids. They need to know that there are other kinds of people out there, and other kinds of relationship. Kids will grow up, very likely seeing man+woman relationship as the normal (bare with me, not stepping on any toes) and will be confused at seeing woman/woman and man/man relationships.

I recall that lesbian kissing used to be censored, but men kissing wasn't.

[Z]

By [a business] latching onto the latest fad generated by the homosexual special interest groups[consumer market], Hallmark is negating its image as a wholesome [Christian-exclusive] company that promotes American values and pro-family principles [the betterment of some people over other people] in its products.

You know, the bitch has a point. Clearly it's much more progressive and American to be a group of people who stem from one mind and one background. Not like America is supposed to be synonymous with Diversity or anything. At least no one has ever referred to us as a "Melting Pot"


...wait...

[Seegtease]

Customers used to be able to trust Hallmark to produce quality products that were safe for all ages.

Being gay is only safe for adults!

[chefTENGU]

I heard of a blog a friend of mine read once, by some idiot. He was posting about how is son asked him what a "gay person" was.

He explained to him that homosexuality was invented as part of the Hippie counter-culture in 1968 or so.

[Gio Takahashi]

...wow wtf.

[Charlie]

The awareness does need to be raised, granted. Because in today's society, it can't just be ignored anymore. Though, kids need to realize that making the choice to BE that way is what's detremental. And people need to quit glorifying Homosexuality like it's the second coming of Christ. Like it's actually something good. I get no satisfaction in seeing men OR women getting off on eachother. In fact, it sickens me, to be perfectly honest.

And so answers the question of my opinion with the gay/lesbian cards.

[Bloodcinder]

The awareness does need to be raised, granted. Because in today's society, it can't just be ignored anymore. Though, kids need to realize that making the choice to BE that way is what's detremental.
You know it's not a choice to be that way. It's a choice to act on the way that one happens to be. And choosing to act contrary to one's own being is what is detrimental. Raising a society of kids who are forced to either live in secrecy or live in denial is what's detrimental, and the attitudes that foster that system are, quite frankly, malicious.

And people need to quit glorifying Homosexuality like it's the second coming of Christ. Like it's actually something good. I get no satisfaction in seeing men OR women getting off on eachother. In fact, it sickens me, to be perfectly honest.
The thought of "getting off on a woman" sickens me. Does that mean I have a problem with you doing that? No. Does it mean you shouldn't be able to do that? No. If you want to judge people based on your religion, go right ahead, but don't judge people based on your tastes, because that's even less defensible than the former.

[Killer_Man_]

I think what Charlie meant was like I said about all those gay pride parade where they get all pink like and dance around like idiots.

[Arainach]

I think what Charlie meant was like I said about all those gay pride parade where they get all pink like and dance around like idiots.That wasn't how I took Charlie's post at all. My reading was much closer to LH's interpretation.

[Killer_Man_]

Well, I guess I'm just more naive and hope he meant something more nice?

Besides back in HS, almost all the girls hmmm glorified, OH LOOK I AM BI!

Like they are trying to attract a male cause OH NOS I GET TO HAVE 2 CHIKS!

[Bloodcinder]

I think what Charlie meant was like I said about all those gay pride parade where they get all pink like and dance around like idiots.
That's definitely not what he was talking about. Also, find and read the post where I explained pride parades. Don't call them idiots for engaging in a historically significant event.

Besides back in HS, almost all the girls hmmm glorified, OH LOOK I AM BI!

Like they are trying to attract a male cause OH NOS I GET TO HAVE 2 CHIKS!
Yeah, a lot of girls do that. That has no bearing on people who are actually gay or bi. It has no bearing on greeting cards.

[Killer_Man_]

That's definitely not what he was talking about. Also, find and read the post where I explained pride parades. Don't call them idiots for engaging in a historically significant event.

I know what you wrote about it, but I am not talking about a normal march/meet though. -.-; There is a difference between a pride parade/march/meeting then a flaunting dancing pink person.

Eh, like I said, I got something different from his post.


Yeah, a lot of girls do that. That has no bearing on people who are actually gay or bi. It has no bearing on greeting cards.

Yeah I know.

[Bloodcinder]

I know what you wrote about it, but I am not talking about a normal march/meet though. -.-; There is a difference between a pride parade/march/meeting then a flaunting dancing pink person.
No, actually, the pride parade is about being a flaunting dancing pink person. That's the whole point: to make it quite apparent that they're not going to conform to existing social norms just because the straights tell them to do so. I reiterate that this came about when the gays were persecuted in the 60's and 70's by the police. Since we're still not fully equal citizens, the parade's purpose remains, and so do its methods, however worthy they may or may not be.

However, this is a digression. (Also, I haven't been offended by anything you've said, so don't think I'm fighting back or something. I'm actually more interested in Charlie addressing his claims, which were far more destructive and poorly rationalized.)

[Arainach]

There is a difference between a pride parade/march/meeting then a flaunting dancing pink person.But is there a difference between a flaunting dancing pink person and a football player who goes around everywhere in his jersey or other sports clothes? Or in nuns who go shopping in their outfits? They're all just people expressing who they are.

[Killer_Man_]

Meh, I don't force anyone to live their life a certain way. Since I believe God will sort out what is right and what is wrong. Hell, I could be completely wrong even in my life styles so I do not tend to judge.

I don't know LH, I think the parade/march would be more appropriate because to the -common person- all they are thinking is, "OH LOOK AT DAT FLAMING FAG WITH THE PINK OUTFIT! WHAT A FREAK!"

That's why at times I wish they would be more civilized?

But hey, whatever floats your boat. And yes, I know you aren't fighting me LH.

But is there a difference between a flaunting dancing pink person and a football player who goes around everywhere in his jersey or other sports clothes? Or in nuns who go shopping in their outfits? They're all just people expressing who they are.

Ary, read what I just said above, you know damn well how stupid people are. I've seen you rant about it. Think about how the most common street person thinks. They aren't thinking of gay pride or anything. They are thinking of how flashy being gay is, it's just for show and etc. They don't think/nor care about the history about it.

[Arainach]

Ary, read what I just said above, you know damn well how stupid people are. I've seen you rant about it. Think about how the most common street person thinks. They aren't thinking of gay pride or anything. They are thinking of how flashy being gay is, it's just for show and etc. They don't think/nor care about the history about it.So? What other people think should not control how other people act and dress.

[Bloodcinder]

ARG.

This post is to demonstrate that I feel as if what I'm saying is not being internalized at all but is, as the saying goes, flying in one ear and out the other.

[chefTENGU]

Guys, Ron already addressed this whole thing early on in the Ask a Gay thread.

Pride parades are not about dancing around in drag, it's about making the presence of the gay community felt so that people have to acknowledge their existence for at least one day of the year.

It's been several decades since the first one, though, and the meaning is being lost on the newer generation, straights and gays alike.

[Gio Takahashi]

I can see that there isn't much of a point for it now, as there used to be, but it's still a necessity to raise awareness for everyone, even for the younger kids. Especially

[Seegtease]

So yeah, maybe they should put dancing pink people on greeting cards. Yeah.

[Z]

Guys, Ron already addressed this whole thing early on in the Ask a Gay thread.
For reference: http://www.unitedempire.net/forums/showpost.php?p=12214&postcount=34

[Arainach]

I'm still waiting on a response from Charlie, personally.

[Bloodcinder]

I'm still waiting on a response from Charlie, personally.
I don't actually think there's going to be one. This seems to happen fairly regularly.

[Killer_Man_]

ARG!

I know what you said, I understand that. I am just saying something to be different. I wasn't trying to frustrate anyone